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« Reply #150 on: January 22, 2010, 07:30:49 PM »

Its not a "you can't win" thing, Spelunkys a hard game, but its fair, its not trying to kill you but its not holding your hand either.
Your mod would sooner put a sticky bomb in your hand and push you into a pit of Spikes that are on fire before it would work with you and not against you. Let alone do it for you.

And while that is true, my above point kinda states what I mean.
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« Reply #151 on: January 22, 2010, 07:34:47 PM »

Yeah. Just accept it. Or play the original Spelunky.
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« Reply #152 on: January 22, 2010, 07:36:42 PM »

...So I'm not allowed to discuss the mod, in a topic ABOUT the Mod?

That makes a TON of sense Sudo.
A whole TON
I mean like one of those water tower tons.

Also, if I'm allowed to have a Negative opinion about something
And as I have said I do Enjoy the mod.
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« Reply #153 on: January 22, 2010, 07:38:46 PM »

You can have a negative opinion.
It's just the opinion was too negative.
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« Reply #154 on: January 22, 2010, 07:44:23 PM »

...So I'm not allowed to discuss the mod, in a topic ABOUT the Mod?

That makes a TON of sense Sudo.
A whole TON
I mean like one of those water tower tons.

Also, if I'm allowed to have a Negative opinion about something
And as I have said I do Enjoy the mod.
Oh darn it! I keep losing posts lately.

And he can have a negative opinion, helps me grow you right.

But what I am saying is I did a lot of testing to make sure that there was never a place where you couldn't win, only it being hard to win. If I failed in some way let me know and don't just be vague about it.
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« Reply #155 on: January 22, 2010, 07:49:57 PM »

I repeat, I've never said anything about unwinable.
Unfair isn't about being unwinable.
I don't know how I can explain what I mean anymore than what I already did.
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« Reply #156 on: January 22, 2010, 07:56:22 PM »

Is isn't fun or good or remotely proper. You aren't making the game harder, your making it less fair.  You make a ton of super enemies and strip down the ways to fight them.  Nerfing items doen't add difficultly.  It just screws with the balence.  This mod has gone verring right into Fake Difficult.  Walking along, Red Spike Trap out of nowhere, no time to dodge.  And don't even try to compare this to IWBTG, at least it has the common courty of become predictable.  After the first few deaths it becomes skill.  Not here.  Just 99% luck.
TECHNICALLY you didn't say it's unwinnable, but only technically.
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« Reply #157 on: January 22, 2010, 07:56:40 PM »

I think it just takes an amount of patience and precision above the original source. Obviously most of us played Spelunky the first few times and thought, "This is freaking impossible!". But after a while you get used to the traps, the enemies and so on and realize it just takes some expertise, I guess you would call it. Personally, I don't enjoy enhanced difficulty in games and generally play the normal mode even the second time around, but a lot of people want the added challenge and welcome it. So there is a place for us to enjoy the original, screw you when it can Spelunky, and those that enjoy the screw you at every chance ED Spelunky.  Smiley
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« Reply #158 on: January 22, 2010, 07:58:02 PM »

Thats obviously not me Sudo...


And its not just making it hard, its making it Needlessly hard.
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« Reply #159 on: January 22, 2010, 08:20:50 PM »

Disagreed for once. Sorry Darkness, I think this mod is really quite fair. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen I always say. Some of the recent updates *COUGHSUPERMONKEYSCOUGH* make me die, but there's never a situation where it's totally unfair. Use your wits, "Don't be afraid to die. But don't be afraid to live either! Happy Spelunky-ing!"
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« Reply #160 on: January 22, 2010, 08:30:29 PM »

the update well nerf the super monkeys, and I am sorry I put them in!
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« Reply #161 on: January 22, 2010, 10:03:41 PM »

Good, are you taking them out completely?
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« Reply #162 on: January 22, 2010, 10:14:24 PM »

You know...I'm not even sure why I'm arguing this, I'm doing it without actually thinking about the game itself and its very unlike me.
Also Gummy, you are aware what Nerfing means right? Hes not getting rid of them.
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« Reply #163 on: January 22, 2010, 10:25:35 PM »

HE said he was sorry to put them in...

And how would he nerf them without taking them out and making a new effect?
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« Reply #164 on: January 23, 2010, 12:24:32 AM »

HE said he was sorry to put them in...

And how would he nerf them without taking them out and making a new effect?

A gun does 100 damage per shot, then it does 25 damage per shot. (not in spelunky just saying randomly)

That would NERF the gun.

A money jumps at 12 speed, then it jumps at 5
It is nerfed.

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