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« Reply #45 on: September 29, 2009, 01:31:49 PM »

Pretty much. You got the gist of it.
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« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2009, 03:23:15 PM »

What's the maximum number of shops that can spawn in the game?  Can you get one on every level 2..15, or is there a lower limit?
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« Reply #47 on: September 29, 2009, 08:06:33 PM »

The other day I tried to rob the ankh salesman. There happened to be a man-eating plant on the ground above him, so I knocked it out, set it on the floor of his shop, and picked up the ankh like I was about to buy it. (When you do this, the shopkeeper will walk over to you, making it more likely that he will eventually get eaten.) I knew that he would soon burst out of the flower, so I ran. I noticed that I automatically picked up bombs from the other stores in the black market, and none of the other shopkeepers tried to chase me! Unfortunately I either died in some stupid way not long after, or got hit by the aggro'd dude's shotgun after he burst from the plant's belly.
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« Reply #48 on: September 29, 2009, 10:53:06 PM »

What's the maximum number of shops that can spawn in the game?  Can you get one on every level 2..15, or is there a lower limit?
It's a random chance. You could get one after another for several levels, or never see any at all, just like for damsels. I don't know if it's possible to get a shop on every level or on zero levels (I usually die before I can find out though).
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« Reply #49 on: September 30, 2009, 12:54:05 AM »

I've gotten 0 shops before.
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« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2009, 04:45:52 AM »

I've gotten 0 shops before.

The game is unbeatable without shops, isn't it? Or at least when I try. Every game that I've had without shops, I've only made it so far until I'm stuck somewhere and the ghost has to come to kill me.
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« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2009, 05:31:44 AM »

i'm pretty sure you can do it. Thinking about it on successful runs i tend to only use bombs and ropes to get crates, rarely needing them to get out of impossible situations - all of which were avoidable.
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« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2009, 08:10:50 AM »

The game is unbeatable without shops, isn't it? Or at least when I try. Every game that I've had without shops, I've only made it so far until I'm stuck somewhere and the ghost has to come to kill me.

I saw a YouTube video where a guy won with only the starting items, never picking anything up, and never taking damage.
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« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2009, 12:36:20 PM »

The game is unbeatable without shops, isn't it? Or at least when I try. Every game that I've had without shops, I've only made it so far until I'm stuck somewhere and the ghost has to come to kill me.
Uh, hang on: are you asking whether the game is unbeatable without shops, or without the items that you can get from shops-or-crates-or-solid-rock-itself?  Because certainly you don't need shops in order to get lucky and find super-powered whatsits.  And even beyond that, as noted, some people will take it as a challenge to get through the game without using items.  Sure you could do it.

(And, as long as I'm on this subject: the Sceptre doesn't come from a shop, and getting it almost assures that a final-shortcut-run of mine ends in winning the game.)

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« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2009, 12:38:56 PM »

The Scepter is weak because it targets corpses.

The Shotgun is weak because it doesn't shoot through walls.

The Boomerang is weak because it doesn't do much damage.
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« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2009, 12:51:05 PM »

The Scepter is weak because it targets corpses.

The Shotgun is weak because it doesn't shoot through walls.

The Boomerang is weak because it doesn't do much damage.

There's a boomerang?
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« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2009, 01:05:55 PM »

The Scepter is weak because it targets corpses.

The Shotgun is weak because it doesn't shoot through walls.

The Boomerang is weak because it doesn't do much damage.

There's a boomerang?

Yeah, since when the hell are there boomerangs?

And corpses aren't a problem. Just make sure to group all of the enemies into one small place.
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« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2009, 05:34:13 PM »

I thiiiink he might be talking about the bow... but there seriously should be a boomerang in the game! with zelda-like returning directly to you.
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« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2009, 05:36:33 PM »

I thiiiink he might be talking about the bow... but there seriously should be a boomerang in the game! with zelda-like returning directly to you.

That would be awesome.
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« Reply #59 on: September 30, 2009, 05:49:24 PM »

Actually, I'm talking about the standard Legend of Zelda boomerang, not the Spelunky bow. :V
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