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General / Discuss! / Re: Debate Thread
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on: December 09, 2012, 11:48:25 AM
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Yes. Unless you're reading some original Hebrew edition. Oh wait, even then it's been so long, the language evolved so much, that unless you have an first edition bible you have an altered edition in some way. And even then, interpretation of language in translations would still apply!
You have gall to claim it's become offensive only now, despite continuously denying a Christian is a Christian. You're entitled to your beliefs (as are Mormons and others), hell they might be true, I don't know and I'm in no rush for the only method to find out with certainty. But to treat only your beliefs as sacred and chip away at others' is a hypocrisy that will not be tolerated.
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General / Discuss! / Re: Debate Thread
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on: December 09, 2012, 11:33:32 AM
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I'm not bashing Mormonism, it's just that I don't think they're true Christians due to the fact that they seem to change the bible to suite their beliefs.
Anyway, even if evolution is true, that doesn't disprove God's existence. After all, if it is true, then God would be the one that was guiding lifeforms through evolution.
I don't believe it as it doesn't make sense for me in the context of the bible. 1. As does literally every denomination of Christianity (and most people distinct from their denominational beliefs). As was pointed out, even Catholics do! Though considering there are several branches of even Catholicism... 2. This is true. Either way, a distressingly large number of several rather religious folks (and not just Mormons and other Christians, people of all beliefs are known to frown upon evolution somehow) still find evolution and a higher power to contradict each other. 3. Few things make sense in context of the bible. You'll be hard pressed to find two people that perfectly agree on most interpretations of it, and the bible is all up to interpretation. Sorry to continue that all, but I'm not trying to cause argument, but education. Some of these opinions have been a mite offensive, and show a lack of understanding that I hope we can correct. Though I highly doubt I'll change anyone's mind on the matter, at least the information is presented for you. Also I will admit, even if those rather left-field Mormon beliefs that seem to crop up here unsourced are legitimate parts of their belief (and not part of strange subdivisions further in, like those who still argue for polygamy), by definition they are still Christian. Certainly not garden variety, but that's a different story. As for the other thing, I've only played one Meat Boy sparingly, and Scrolls not at all, so I would mainly count my experiences with Binding of Isaac and Minecraft. Sadly we haven't really discussed by what we're judging the creators, some are mentioning reasons based on their personalities and interactions, others on games. Game wise they are both bloody damned fantastic, but Minecraft has so much more life to it, as in I play it a helluva lot more. Adding in the multiplayer aspect which is an experience all it's own...yeah, Notch. And Battlefield vs COD? While i do prefer TF2, my laptop can't handle it for now (my old one is too broken to play it anymore), so it's been ages since I played (perhaps when I've money for a good laptop). On point, I'd say COD. Never cared to play the Battlefield games, though my brother enjoys both. True COD is overly formulaic at times, and multiplayer is mostly rehashed with new weapons and maps between games, not to mention the plots that aren't of great substance, the games are still fun. The plots are enjoyable even at worst, the single player fun, and even when frustrating the multiplayer is still a great way to relieve stress.
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General / Discuss! / Re: Debate Thread
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on: November 29, 2012, 06:32:49 AM
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Neither.
There's always the pro's and con's of everything, including countries themselves. Also, there's that to address the prior topic that lead into this one anyway. While it's the popular thing to bash America, especially to offset some of the nutty nationalists we have, most countries are just as bad as us. Look around the world a little, do research, and that'll become clear. They're just not always as bad in the same ways.
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General / Discuss! / Re: Debate Thread
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on: November 29, 2012, 06:28:58 AM
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Mormons, a denomination of Christianity. Do they have at times wildly different beliefs from most other Christians? Yes. They're still Christians.
Christian is a blanket term under which several, several different branches fall. One is not simply "a Christian," but a certain kind. Baptist, Protestant, Catholic, etc*. And even most of those have their own subdivisions. As kj979 pointed out, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is a Christ based religion. Kind of hard to not be Christian, to believe other ways to heaven, or something besides Jesus being the savior and all that jazz, when their core beliefs still revolve around him.
*Technically one can identify as just plain Christian and it be true. Of course, if you're a member of some church's congregation, ten to one that church is of a specific sect, and thus you are. But some people don't really attend church, or feel kinship to any branch, and just hold basic Christian beliefs (most lightly colored with their own interpretations), and as such if they want to be called simply Christians then who's to stop them. (Though note anyone of the many branches, sects, could be called Christian, just that they are more then only Christian; to reiterate in case that message was missed)
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General / Discuss! / Re: Big Raging US Presidential Debate thread!
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on: November 08, 2012, 01:34:11 AM
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They dont wish to impose their beliefs on other people however, they do not wish to provide for what they believe is murder. This policy forces companies to go against their religion. And many companies DO support a certain religion. For example Chick-Fil-A, hobby lobby, and mardels (owned by hobby lobby) are all Christian companies.
Your arguments sound like they were cribbed off a typical Fox newscaster who'd complain about those poor oppressed Christians, but slightly diluted and covered with a blanket a well meaning. When it's come to the point that you're defending Chic-Fil-A it should be clear that you need to sit back and think about what you're saying, and preferably do some actual research. It's more than just "they're forced to supply the pills." This isn't the gov't saying "Guys buy a ton of pills, you're forced to give your employees them. Or else." so stop making it out like it is. All in all the politics discussion is as embarrassing as some of the other topics that have popped up here lately. Perhaps with luck it'll be locked like they have been.
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General / Discuss! / Re: The Offtopic Topic
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on: August 28, 2012, 05:08:28 PM
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You forgot to mention that they are the best selling and arguably most popular band of all time!
Yep, and seen by many as being one of the biggest influences in music in the past century. They're...well, a pretty big deal. And no, I am not speaking from bias, despite the fact I do rather enjoy The Beatles.
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Games / Spelunky / Re: Co-op cheating
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on: August 16, 2012, 12:26:42 PM
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Of course removing the ghost removes a hell of a lot of the fun of multiplayer. In a game where you die easily, what's the fun if you die and just have to sit and watch your friend for a half hour? And toning down resurrection affects it in much the same way.
Are achievements really that big a deal?
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Games / Spelunky / Re: SPELUNKY RATED T?!?!
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on: August 01, 2012, 12:11:49 PM
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You don't /have/ to run over the hooker afterwards and get half your money back, but it just wouldn't be GTA without that option. Actually, related since I mentioned GTA, the Hot Coffee scandal. It wasn't even in the game, it wasn't even something players had the choice of doing normally, but it still bumped the rating on on San Andreas (a similar thing happened with removed topless character models in TES: Oblivion, leading to an M rating).
Also, can I say how amusing it is that everyone is still taking this so seriously? It's an online game, so rating preventing being stocked somewhere is a non-issue. The only issue is parents who judge based on rating if a child should play or not, and this isn't a game I could see young children playing, or even enjoying much for that point.
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Games / Spelunky / Re: Is this a part of the Spelunky experience?
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on: July 30, 2012, 07:21:23 PM
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The teleporter is completely intentional, been like that since PC. The Sceptre seems to be also on purpose.
But to the best of my knowledge, the Black Market Entrance in a Shop's radius shouldn't happen, perhaps post of it in the Bug Thread? The arrow trap I can't say either way, never encountered it myself so perhaps it is a bug.
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Games / Spelunky / Re: SPELUNKY RATED T?!?!
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on: July 30, 2012, 07:15:23 PM
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Something you're all missing about my post is that it's supposed to be humorous. I mean, it's pretty clear that T is a fair rating considering all that's in it, be glad there wasn't such a focus on detail like mine, or M wouldn't be to far off. Hayden's spot on, by the way, just look at Scribblenauts. The ESRB took time to mention "steak can be attached to a baby to attract lions."
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Games / Spelunky / Re: SPELUNKY RATED T?!?!
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on: July 30, 2012, 12:10:50 PM
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In a game where gruesome and bloody death is not just an occurrence, but one common enough to be considered a Feature, it's a miracle it wasn't rated higher. Human sacrifice? Of innocent maidens upon a blood stained altar to a dark goddess? Whereupon wit her favor you can drink upon the blood of your fallen foes for your own benefit?
Dark stuff.
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