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Title: Doomed damsel
Post by: qqqbbb on January 30, 2014, 04:25:12 AM
Damsel was spawned next to spike totem.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28753474/Doomed%20damsel.jpg)


Title: Re: Doomed damsel
Post by: Bae on January 30, 2014, 10:10:43 AM
Stuff like that happens sometimes

the way level generation works can cause fluke accidents like that

sometimes a shop will be embedded in rock, sometimes there will be no gap between floors, sometimes the shopkeep will instantly aggro because an enemy walked in and hit him

such is spelunky!


Title: Re: Doomed damsel
Post by: Whooper1222 on January 31, 2014, 06:38:49 AM
such is spelunky!
I'd say, such is bug.


Title: Re: Doomed damsel
Post by: Bae on January 31, 2014, 10:09:36 AM
I don't think "bug" is quite the right word for it, I would say "pain in the ass"

One of these days I need to figure out if the meanings of Glitch and Bug are the same or if a thing doesn't have to be a glitch to be a bug... because it's definitely not a glitch, but maybe a bug

Terms are hard!


Title: Re: Doomed damsel
Post by: bloxxin on January 31, 2014, 10:23:07 AM
Well my terminology would be like this:

~~Accidental
Glitch - doesn't affect gameplay, just funny
Bug - affects gameplay, may make stuff impossible/annoying
Exploit - affects gameplay by giving unfair advantage

~~Purposeful
Easter Egg - another funny thing
"It's not a bug, it's a feature!" - laziness
Cheat - unfair advantage, like cheat codes and stuff


Title: Re: Doomed damsel
Post by: Whooper1222 on January 31, 2014, 11:43:40 AM
Well my terminology would be like this:

~~Accidental
Glitch - doesn't affect gameplay, just funny
Bug - affects gameplay, may make stuff impossible/annoying
Exploit - affects gameplay by giving unfair advantage

~~Purposeful
Easter Egg - another funny thing
"It's not a bug, it's a feature!" - laziness
Cheat - unfair advantage, like cheat codes and stuff
That is right.


Title: Re: Doomed damsel
Post by: Bae on January 31, 2014, 11:57:28 AM
That's... extraordinarily wrong.

A glitch is an unintended action that a program preforms under specific circumstances (some way more specific than others) due to issues in the coding.

And any programmer will tell you that 99.9% of glitches are fucking awful and cause headaches for whoever is programming the thing.


Title: Re: Doomed damsel
Post by: bloxxin on January 31, 2014, 12:13:55 PM
...

I am a programmer, you know? (this is not including my Spelunky mod)

A little googling proves that bugs are what I have said, a flaw by the programmer that can cause unintended actions/results, become annoying, or may make stuff impossible.

A glitch happens randomly, maybe from PC overheating, not enough RAM, etc; these really cannot be fixed easily at all. But this may likely target graphics and sounds, maybe collisions more than anything else. In rare cases it may crash.

So this would leave glitches as pretty much funny things. (bugs may not bother either and be funny, look at ladder goat.)


Title: Re: Doomed damsel
Post by: KarjamP on February 01, 2014, 02:43:29 AM
I think he was talking from a programmer's point of view (ie, it's a pain in the neck to fix them and can be quite annoying to them if they found them as well), not the players. :P