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Games => Spelunky Classic => Topic started by: Michelle Johnson on October 17, 2013, 08:56:25 AM



Title: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: Michelle Johnson on October 17, 2013, 08:56:25 AM
So, I played this version awhile back, and never really got to the jungle even, I got HD and beat it, so, coming back to classic, the slight changes really do make the difference. Anybody else feel the same way?


Title: Re: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: Subscriber01236 on October 17, 2013, 09:14:13 AM
Yep same here.
I can't even beat the mines in the classic version anymore :P


Title: Re: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: Whooper1222 on October 17, 2013, 11:59:20 AM
Same here too.

The smoother controls and gameplay and less lag and all... all the other things make it a lot easier than Classic.

In Classic, I can hardly beat Mines and never survive in the Jungle.
In HD, Ice Caves with many health, bombs and ropes = guaranteed!
Most of the time I reach the Temple. I haven't beat Olmec, but will surely do in a couple of tries(if I still have practice).


Title: Re: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: Urza on October 17, 2013, 12:18:33 PM
It's interesting how the little changes dictate you play differently. For instance in Classic, I found the safest way to break jars was with my whip (since it kills any creature in there too), but in HD, that doesn't work, plus loose spiders aren't quite so bad, so I toss them a few spaces away instead.

Arcing vs. straight flying arrows are another example. I'm not certain which is worse over all, but they both kill you vary reliably if you were expecting the other behavior!


Title: Re: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: Whooper1222 on October 17, 2013, 12:34:27 PM
It's interesting how the little changes dictate you play differently. For instance in Classic, I found the safest way to break jars was with my whip (since it kills any creature in there too), but in HD, that doesn't work, plus loose spiders aren't quite so bad, so I toss them a few spaces away instead.

Arcing vs. straight flying arrows are another example. I'm not certain which is worse over all, but they both kill you vary reliably if you were expecting the other behavior!
The smoother controls are the reason why I play it so godly...

I like:
1. the arrow speed boost, as it feels much more exciting and deadly. Most of the traps have been made deadlier.
2. the spiders, as they are easy to kill. In Classic, I mostly avoided them, in HD, I kill them, always! You know, run, turn back, whip! They also don't bounce as they do in the Classic.
3. the new pots, they make the fact that there can be an enemy present meaningful. I mean, if the enemy dies as the pot breaks, what's the point of being there?

Actually, it's all about habit! You've played the Classic version more than I have, so you feel that version more comfortable than this one.


Title: Re: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: SuperX46 on October 17, 2013, 05:14:06 PM
Funny, I find Classic easier and HD harder. HD is obviously the better game.


Title: Re: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: Audioworm on October 18, 2013, 09:55:28 AM
Now I feel all jealous for not having the HD version. :P


Title: Re: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: Whooper1222 on October 18, 2013, 11:10:43 AM
Now I feel all jealous for not having the HD version. :P
You don't?
Well, there are always more ways of getting it. Just saying. (Hint: hidsor)


Title: Re: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: Urza on October 18, 2013, 04:26:53 PM
HD is objectively better only in certain specific respects. Obviously the graphics are more detailed. And because each block is more pixels, that makes on controls feel smoother too. And it does have the "secret" extra zone.

And it's objectively worse in at least one respect too (no level editor).

Other than those, most of the changes are things that some will like and some won't.


Title: Re: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: Whooper1222 on October 18, 2013, 11:56:37 PM
1. HD is objectively better only in certain specific respects. Obviously the graphics are more detailed. And because each block is more pixels, that makes on controls feel smoother too. And it does have the "secret" extra zone.
And it's objectively worse in at least one respect too (no level editor).

2. Other than those, most of the changes are things that some will like and some won't.
1. Well, I was just discussing the gameplay changes, not the features though. Sure, I would like a level editor too.

2. Like what?
HD is harder in the sense that there are more enemies and traps. Traps are deadlier. and other changes.


Title: Re: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: Urza on October 19, 2013, 11:14:30 AM
Are... you using better and harder as synonyms?


Title: Re: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: SuperX46 on October 19, 2013, 10:49:03 PM
Are... you using better and harder as synonyms?
I wasn't. I was just saying it was harder, and it was a better game for obvious reasons (More stuff)


Title: Re: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: Whooper1222 on October 19, 2013, 10:51:23 PM
Are... you using better and harder as synonyms?
Quite a bit.
I meant the some gameplay elements are made harder as improvements, while the smoother controls makes it easier which more or less balances it, atleast for me. Besides, there are also couple of things made easier in this version.


NINJA'D!
Are... you using better and harder as synonyms?
I wasn't. I was just saying it was harder, and it was a better game for obvious reasons (More stuff)
I don't think he was asking you, though.( or was he asking both of us?)


Title: Re: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: Nathan on October 20, 2013, 12:26:45 PM
I feel like Classic has smoother controls. It's also nice that you don't automatically grab ledges


Title: Re: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: SuperX46 on October 20, 2013, 05:07:33 PM
I feel like Classic has smoother controls
Wat


Title: Re: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: Whooper1222 on October 20, 2013, 10:08:16 PM
I feel like Classic has smoother controls
Wat
Yeah, WHAT!!!


Title: Re: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: Michelle Johnson on October 22, 2013, 09:16:07 AM
Now I feel all jealous for not having the HD version. :P
Don't worry you'll get it!  ;D


Title: Re: Coming Back... and failing.
Post by: Pteriforever on July 22, 2014, 07:05:25 AM
I had the opposite. After playing HD for a while, I came back to original Spelunky and suddenly the controls felt fantastic and I started doing really well