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Title: Shop Robbing
Post by: Skoke on January 29, 2013, 08:50:17 AM
What are the best techinches to rob a shop?
Also what about black market robbing?


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Skoke on January 29, 2013, 08:56:25 AM
My favorite requires either an arrow, climbing gloves or a rope.
Also works if you steal climbing gloves.

The set up:
Toss up a rope right outside the shop.
Or impale your arrow in the wall above the shop entrance
If you have climbing gloves you don't need to do that^

The Heist:
Grab an item and run out the shop. Jump and grab your rope or arrow or the wall.
Wait for shoppy to run out and curbstomp his stupid head. Grab shot gun kill him.

Works really great and all you need is an arrow. And a desire to kill shoppies


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: kj979 on January 29, 2013, 11:33:43 AM
Not an expert, but I usually use bombs.
1: Drop bombs from above (read: digging through ceiling, easier if you have mattock)
2: Use rope, toss bomb in, climb up high


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Nathan on January 29, 2013, 01:53:54 PM
Every once in a while you can blow through the roof without him getting mad. If this happens I make a little ledge and throw item by item onto it. If it is done just right it does not anger the shopkeeper. After this I throw a rope up and take the items. Then I avoid the shopkeeper on the next level and he becomes happy with me again.


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Urza on January 29, 2013, 02:40:17 PM
Another trick is to crack a jar or skull over his head, grab the best item in the store and run like hell. As with the above, the shop keepers' guild will only be angry with you for one level, instead of forever.

If you skip the jar, you can still sometimes do it, but you'll have to jump over a shotgun blast as you exit the store.

Note: For those not aware, jars and skulls stun shop keepers, unlike most other thrown items.


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: halibabica on January 29, 2013, 03:05:16 PM
I'm only good at it in TLS, where a well-timed jump can net you one carryable item and anything picked up by touch.


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Damsel on January 29, 2013, 03:42:38 PM
I just try not to kill the shopkeeper, because I feel bad. (and it makes me lose later. Always)


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Skoke on January 29, 2013, 05:43:15 PM
I just try not to kill the shopkeeper, because I feel bad. (and it makes me lose later. Always)

With my technique sometimes I leave him alive. That way I don't lose.
Unless theres some really good stuff


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Nathan on January 30, 2013, 06:33:57 PM
I have tons of strategies but I can't stand not sprinting so I just run through levels.


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: TyrOvC on January 31, 2013, 09:45:38 PM
My most favorite way is stunning a mantrap and throwing it into a shop to eat the shopkeeper. Just entertaining to do!


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Urza on January 31, 2013, 10:32:38 PM
You know, after being initially disappointed to discover they (somehow) survive that, I never gave it much thought. But It's neat actually, apparently it technically isn't a crime at all. The shop keeper does get mad, but they're not out to get you even on the next level. Of course it's limited to zone two, but still a good move to keep in your playbook as it were.


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: curiousdan on February 17, 2013, 02:37:30 PM
Jar in the head, grab shotgun or bomb him with one left just outside the shop. Lately i ve had enough of buying so i almost always rob him and face the consequences. And i love the black market's Shopkeeper Shootout!


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Nathan on February 17, 2013, 05:53:44 PM
I do the jar in head but don't kill him. It works quite well.


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: mrperson12999 on February 23, 2013, 05:04:31 PM
Use a webcannon, jump on his head until he dies, take his shotgun and whatever else you want, and exit stage left. You will however have to kill future shopkeepers, and if you go to the Black Market, you might as well consider yourself dead.


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Urza on February 23, 2013, 06:35:45 PM
Use a webcannon, jump on his head until he dies, take his shotgun and whatever else you want, and exit stage left. You will however have to kill future shopkeepers, and if you go to the Black Market, you might as well consider yourself dead.
It's entirely possible to fight off a whole black market worth of shoppies. Not easy of course, but possible. I've done it more than once. The main trick is to just spam shotgun blasts from off the screen. But the Ankh shop often require some strategically tossed bombs. You should have lots of bombs by the time you clear the place out, so you may also want to blast a tunnel straight down to the exit from there in case one or two shoppes are still running around on the last floor.


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Nathan on April 16, 2013, 03:09:15 AM
Nice ones :D


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Taylor, The Eternal Oblivion on April 16, 2013, 06:01:59 AM
I generally use a rope inside the shop, throw a random object at the Shopkeeper whilst climbing the rope (I even did it with the Spelunker - I prefer to play as the damsel) and wait for the idiot to walk onto a bomb.

Or I dig through to the shop and bomb it to oblivion.


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: halibabica on April 16, 2013, 01:41:07 PM
I prefer methods that don't involve killing the shopkeeper, because I just can't get through when one's waiting at every exit for the rest of the game. Pots and skulls are the best pacifist weapons, but I always forget about them when it comes time to steal something. I usually only take really valuable items, and depending on the circumstances, I just grab it and run.


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Nathan on April 16, 2013, 03:05:39 PM
Should I make a mod where the shop is protected by lazers and fills with poison if you kill the shoppy?


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Taylor, The Eternal Oblivion on April 16, 2013, 03:21:54 PM
Should I make a mod where the shop is protected by lazers and fills with poison if you kill the shoppy?
Yes, please!

I prefer methods that don't involve killing the shopkeeper, because I just can't get through when one's waiting at every exit for the rest of the game. Pots and skulls are the best pacifist weapons, but I always forget about them when it comes time to steal something. I usually only take really valuable items, and depending on the circumstances, I just grab it and run.
I've made it a self-imposed challenge to kill as much shopkeepers as possible. That way, I can force myself to be careful.


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: DialFforFunky on April 17, 2013, 03:19:49 PM
Telefragging. I often find other options not to be worth the hassle.


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Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Nathan on April 21, 2013, 12:16:24 PM
I never telefragged him much. Seems too unpredictable


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: DialFforFunky on April 21, 2013, 02:34:46 PM
The trick is to know what your maximum teleport distance is. I believe the tile before the shop floor begins is safe to start teleporting from.


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Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Nathan on April 21, 2013, 02:43:30 PM
So just keep going until you telefrag him?


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: DialFforFunky on April 21, 2013, 02:50:14 PM
Yup. Keep running back to the tile and teleport until it works. Black market is a bit safer. Another thing that helps is to lure the shopkeeper forward a bit by picking up an item and the putting it back down again. This gives you a bit more leeway, as it allows you to stand back a bit further.


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Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Sarge on June 21, 2013, 02:14:51 AM
This is my method for killing the shopkeeper without guns.

1. Stand outside the shop, but carefully go near where the shopkeeper doesn't aggravate and where you are able to jump
2. Activate your bomb.
3. When it starts ticking rapidly, chuck it and quickly jump to avoid being shot
RESULT: The angry shopkeeper will run into the bomb, which will explode in a sec.

Caution: The items will fall off into the bottomless pit if the shop is on the lower height.

Hope this helped. :)


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Nathan on June 21, 2013, 06:07:21 PM
Throwing a pot at the shoppy stuns him. When stunned grab his shorty and run. He will be weapon less and you can outrun him


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: rampal on January 09, 2014, 05:41:55 PM
- pick up an item which isn't carried in your hands, like spectacles, compass, box of bombs, jetpack.
- move near the exit, shopkeeper follows you.
- Run out the exit, and jump over his bullets.  If he follows you out, you can then land on his head, grab the shotgun, and either kill him or run away.
- Sometimes he runs back the other way after shooting, so you have to jump again, then he exits the shop. Land on his head then.

Once you get the timing right you can succeed this way about 95 percent of the time.



I also like to place a sticky bomb right underneath him.  This can work well if you're trying to not kill the damsel in the process.


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Roycole on February 15, 2014, 10:41:18 AM
hack into the security system,loop the cameras and detectors and just pick what you want..  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Whooper1222 on February 15, 2014, 10:45:33 AM
hack into the security system,loop the cameras and detectors and just pick what you want..  ;D ;D
That works... if the shopkeeper is blind.


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: Nathan on February 23, 2014, 04:59:32 PM
I dont get what the problem with just buying it is. There is literally money just laying on the ground. It is like if I walked into a Walmart where $100's were laying on the floor and still I chose to rob it.


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: halibabica on February 23, 2014, 05:36:06 PM
Well, if you're going for a high score in wealth, it's counter-productive to spend money in any way at all. When I'm not out for the big bucks, though, I do sometimes just buy things I need, if they're not a total ripoff.


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: TunnelMan'sAfro on February 25, 2014, 04:19:37 PM
If you go right in front of the shopkeeper, face away from him and whip, you automatically land on his head without having to jump which gives you enough time to grab his shotgun. For black market robbing, I first whip a bomb into the first shop on the right then throw up a rope. The bomb creates a path for the two shopkeepers to fall in the lower level and if you are at the top of the rope you should be safe while you wait for this to happen. These first two shops usually have a good amount of bombs to keep going. Overhanging the Ankh shop there is always a platform where it is easy to dunk bombs and kill the remaining shopkeepers on the second floor. Then I grab the Ankh and bomb down to the door.


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: SuB_Zer0 on March 28, 2014, 10:17:08 AM
                                               -THE ART OF SHOP ROBBING-
                                                    (For dummies C: llollolol)
WAY ONE:
Strategy
Strategy one:
Freezing outside strategy:
Each player knows about frozen region. This is place that prevents from ultimate lags, boulders, and moving everything. This is the best way to rob a shop. You can use bombs for this, or just siply use handgun on shoppy and keep firing at him, until' he dies.
Strategy Two:
Pacifist way
You won't feel sorry while doing this. You sure will get some items but it needs: Timing, Courage. soooo... let's get started. First step is making a good place (bombing a well hole). Second step, is getting a rope RIGHT before the shop sign. Step 3: Robbing and running away from shotgun pebbles. This requires some expirience. You get item and GTFO. While GTFO'ing you need to jump on rope to get out of this alive (and not getting shotgun stoned C:). You well made terrain gets shoppy stuck in yo hole. Grats, u won whole stop.

                                         What if i get into black market 2 early?
                                               -Being a ''Black character''-
When u have no gold, you feel that you HAVE to rob at lest one goodie. but what to do with that shitload of shoppies? Here comes an awanser.
Strategy one:
TELEPORTAR HERE
this one requires: teleporter, brain, skillz
It's a chaos tool. you can rob like that. BUT here come a twist: it teleports 4-8 tiles. but enough of shit talking. you just need to telefrag the shopkeeper. you cna earn loot for 3 first shops. you must have REALLY great skills to rob the dice house, otherwise you might kill one, but you risk getting killed by ankh seller.
Strategy 2:
just shotgunning
1st step:
this requires: arms shop, shotgun 4 sale
you grab shotgun, kill shoppy with it. all you need 2 rob whole black market is ofc SKILLZ dat killz C:
                                        What do i do if shoppies want revenge?
                                            -VENGEFULL SHOPPIES-
you know what that means, if you kill one. they will be always chasing you. they will even go to hell after you (they really do in HD version :P)
you might do:
Pacifist way
don't kill any, don't make any crimes. try stunning mad door shoppy with jump and evacuating. this should do da work.
Fighter way:
1.Frozen region
2.Fighting (u need 2 jump over bullets)
3. Bombing (if in hole)
4. Cold fusion (Bombing frozen shopkeep [frozen region])
                                             





                                           This was art of shop robbing
                                                 hope you enjoyed all my knowledge
                                      feel free to add all you want
                                                          by quoting my post C:


Title: Shop Robbing
Post by: Bernardml on January 12, 2016, 02:01:08 PM
Nobody know of a shop or a welder that can weld up the spring relocation kit?


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: batbro231 on March 13, 2016, 11:44:45 AM
I dig, or bomb, my way behind the building, and when it's just one block separating me and him, let lose a few bombs, and rope my way out before I'm blown to bits.


He'll be blown to bits, and i will rob him of the thing that kept him sane all these years, AND OBLITERATE THE PLACE FROM WHENCE HE CAME!


Title: Re: Shop Robbing
Post by: batbro231 on March 13, 2016, 07:13:57 PM
If you go right in front of the shopkeeper, face away from him and whip, you automatically land on his head without having to jump which gives you enough time to

I tried that for myself and he shot me in the back of the head.