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Title: Easiest enemy?
Post by: kj979 on November 26, 2012, 03:14:30 PM
So yeah...vote please! Let me know if I forget something.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Nathan on November 26, 2012, 03:35:04 PM
Here is my ranking of the enemies that kill me least/do least damage

#1. Snake - I rarely get hurt by this enemy. By far the easiest in the game.
#2. Skeleton - Rarely hurts me. On the small chance I encounter this enemy I whip it.
#3. Piranha - I am able to avoid these with ease.
#4. Bat - Although it almost never kills, this pesky foe is able to do damage.
#5. Caveman - They are easy to deal with if they don't surprise you.
#6. UFO - These usually screw me up without hurting me by destroying blocks.
#7. Hawkman - Annoying as hell but I am able to beat them.
#8. Frog - Almost as bad as the next foe on my list.
#9. Spider - SOOOO UNPREDICTABLE! I hate this enemy.
#10. Yeti - Get caught in their loops almost every time I play the ice stage.
#11. Exploding Frog - Worse than the spider. Because it EXPLODES!!!!               
#12. Shopkeeper - I rob shops daily and am brought to justice by these crafty creatures


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: KarjamP on November 26, 2012, 03:37:10 PM
The snake of course, being The Goomba (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheGoomba).


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Nathan on November 26, 2012, 04:02:48 PM
You forgot a few enemies such as the vampire


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: halibabica on November 26, 2012, 05:35:45 PM
Snakes, Bats, and Skeletons for me. They almost never give me problems except under very unusual circumstances. I have decent strategies for everything else, too, but most of them aren't nearly as easy.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Nathan on November 26, 2012, 05:59:03 PM
Shoppies need to get smarter. I have to say its not as hard to rob a shop as it used to be. Maybe ill make a mod that makes them a more worthwhile opponent.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: kj979 on November 26, 2012, 05:59:45 PM
You forgot a few enemies such as the vampire
I consider the vampire a boss.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Nathan on November 26, 2012, 06:01:53 PM
ahhh. Well you still forgot the zombie frog


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: kj979 on November 26, 2012, 06:03:14 PM
Thanks, fixed. :)


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Nathan on November 26, 2012, 06:23:13 PM
No problem :D. There not thought of much since they are very rare.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: halibabica on November 26, 2012, 07:00:09 PM
Zombie frog? You mean the Jiang Shi that appear on restless dead levels? 'Cuz they're not frogs (just hop like them)...and they're not really all that rare, either.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Skoke on November 26, 2012, 07:30:28 PM
Yeah I had no idea what a zombie frog was

Snakes by far are the easiest
if you make shoppies harder make them throw bombs


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Nathan on November 26, 2012, 07:58:39 PM
Or nukes!!!


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: kj979 on November 27, 2012, 08:06:25 AM
Zombie frog? You mean the Jiang Shi that appear on restless dead levels? 'Cuz they're not frogs (just hop like them)...and they're not really all that rare, either.
So THAT'S what they're called...I was pretty sure they weren't "zombie frogs" but I didn't know their official title. Thanks!

BTW I love TLS. I think I've spent more time on it than the original Spelunky.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Shane on November 27, 2012, 08:55:07 AM
The Snake! Is weakling, until marsgreekgod begins to mess with them... at least, I think he made a mod with exploding snakes... :-\
The Skeleton! Also a weakling, until marsgreekgod mess with them too.
The Exploding Frog! Oddly enough, I almost never run into these guys, they always spawn around the Black Market entrance, thus allowing me to be able to access it almost every playthrough.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Nathan on November 27, 2012, 12:55:11 PM
Mars did invent the spitting cobra as well. Right? I swear I have seen them in a mod. Derek copied someone for XBLA!


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: halibabica on November 27, 2012, 03:06:50 PM
I love TLS. I think I've spent more time on it than the original Spelunky.
This seems to be the trend.

Mars did invent the spitting cobra as well. Right? I swear I have seen them in a mod. Derek copied someone for XBLA!
I made Ekans spit poison in Spelunkémon, if that's what you're thinking of.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Shane on November 27, 2012, 03:26:45 PM
I love TLS. I think I've spent more time on it than the original Spelunky.
This seems to be the trend.
I spend more time on Spelunkémon... and this gives me an idea. ;D

Mars did invent the spitting cobra as well. Right? I swear I have seen them in a mod. Derek copied someone for XBLA!
I made Ekans spit poison in Spelunkémon, if that's what you're thinking of.
Speaking of which, is there any chances that you'll ever continue on it?
(sorry for being off-topic)


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: halibabica on November 27, 2012, 04:53:06 PM
I haven't forgotten about it, but I've been busy with so much other stuff lately. It'll come around again someday, but for now I have other game design priorities.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Nathan on November 27, 2012, 04:54:14 PM
I love TLS. I think I've spent more time on it than the original Spelunky.
This seems to be the trend.

Mars did invent the spitting cobra as well. Right? I swear I have seen them in a mod. Derek copied someone for XBLA!
I made Ekans spit poison in Spelunkémon, if that's what you're thinking of.

Oh well DEREK OWES YOU CREDIT! He no doubt got that from you! Message him on Tigsource


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: KarjamP on November 27, 2012, 05:12:01 PM
Just because Ekans behaves similar to the Cobra doesn't mean Derek got the idea from him.

Besides, he has no proof!


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Nathan on November 27, 2012, 06:08:50 PM
Just because Ekans behaves similar to the Cobra doesn't mean Derek got the idea from him.

Besides, he has no proof!

I know there is no proof. It would be nice for Derek to at least tell habibablica if he got the idea from him.

EDIT:

3000th POST!!!


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Skoke on November 27, 2012, 07:21:56 PM
Do you guys think derek plays any of the mods?


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: halibabica on November 27, 2012, 08:24:37 PM
If he does, he sure is quiet about it. :(


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Nathan on November 27, 2012, 09:01:27 PM
I bet he does. If I created a game people cared about enough to mod, I would play every one of them.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Shane on November 28, 2012, 03:05:42 AM
Well, if Derek actually does, then it's so secret that only he knows about it.

As far as I know, Pixel doesn't play mods of Cave Story (including Japanese ones).
(but then again, I'm just guessing now)


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Skoke on November 29, 2012, 07:25:12 AM
I voted shoppy


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: KarjamP on November 29, 2012, 10:13:34 AM
Isn't shoppy's a difficult enemy to deal with (especially if you don't know what you're doing)?



Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: kj979 on November 29, 2012, 12:17:41 PM
I voted shoppy
I kind of can see where you're coming from. If you're playing the game "right" (and by "right" I mean morally correct) you're never threatened by them.  ;D


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Skoke on November 29, 2012, 12:46:40 PM
Or you can shoot the bejeezus out of them. Any ranged weapon makes it easy to kill them. Or one bomb in the shop


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: kj979 on November 29, 2012, 12:56:36 PM
Yep. I always get a bunch of bombs, a couple ropes, and get them from the top.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Shane on November 29, 2012, 02:37:18 PM
For some reason one bomb doesn't kill Shopkeeper in Spelunky (vanilla). But then again, that must be because *somehow* it ends up near me and kills me.

Also, how a shopkeeper can survive shotgun bullets point-blank in the head is beyond me. Just like sarcasm.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: KarjamP on November 29, 2012, 02:43:00 PM
Shoppy is supposed to be difficult to kill, as evidenced by him having a low stun time, lots of health as well as the fact that a mantrap can't kill him.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Skoke on November 29, 2012, 06:21:23 PM
At thhe timw it was a joke

But if you know what you are doing they pose no threat

Pistol stuns him then spam fire.
shotgun him stuns him then fire twice more
bow and arrow rocket launcher
sceptre insta kill.
cook a bomb and toss it


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Nathan on December 11, 2012, 09:34:29 PM
Well, if Derek actually does, then it's so secret that only he knows about it.

As far as I know, Pixel doesn't play mods of Cave Story (including Japanese ones).
(but then again, I'm just guessing now)

Yes but Derek did say in the source that he "Could not wait to see what people come up with!"


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Epic_Turtle on March 28, 2013, 09:47:24 AM
Piranas are easy just stay away. if unavoidable jump in jump out.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Sparkle on March 28, 2013, 10:26:38 AM
Shopkeeper. Not necessarily "easiest," but once you get his pattern down it's generally really easy, if you're quick about acting.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Nathan on March 30, 2013, 05:22:06 PM
Piranas are easy just stay away. if unavoidable jump in jump out.

Piranhas are easy but I get lured into the water when there happens to be a chest in it


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: halibabica on March 30, 2013, 08:02:18 PM
Nothing is easier to defeat than a snake, and for anyone to say otherwise is either a falsehood or downright embarrassing on the speaker's part.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Urza on March 30, 2013, 08:35:26 PM
Nothing is easier to defeat than a snake, and for anyone to say otherwise is either a falsehood or downright embarrassing on the speaker's part.
What about alien? Not the boss alien or the UFO, the plain alien. It moves at the same speed as the snake, but it doesn't stop and start randomly. On the one had the snake sits still some of the time, but on the other hand the alien is 100% predictable. I think reasonable people can disagree about which is easier.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Nathan on March 30, 2013, 11:53:57 PM
Hm.. Good point. The regular alien actually is easier


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: halibabica on March 31, 2013, 04:31:16 AM
I'm pretty sure the regular alien pauses at moments too, but it's been a long time since I encountered one, so I can't remember. They're equal as far as I'm concerned.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Arucard on March 31, 2013, 05:31:09 AM
Hey, I can't count how many times I've run into the back of a snake trying to whip it. Then he stops suddenly and I get hurt stepping on his tail, don't judge me damn you. :|


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Taylor, The Eternal Oblivion on April 03, 2013, 02:29:37 PM
Call me insane, but I find the Exploding Frog, Hawkmen and Shopkeepers easy.


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Nathan on April 03, 2013, 07:18:18 PM
Your just like Shane XD


Title: Re: Easiest enemy?
Post by: Sarge on June 21, 2013, 02:33:14 AM
The alien counts as being part of the UFOs

So snakes